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Info-Mac Digest             Sun, 28 Jun 92       Volume 10 : Issue 154

Today's Topics:

      [*] Compact_Pro1.33.sea.hqx
      [*] Murph's Vaporware column for July 1992
      (Q): Sound Problems on si
      .Z files
      [Q]Integrated Accounting Software
      Abracadata's Design Your Own Home: Landscape
      Aliases not in Italic
      Alysis/Aladdin dispute: a public chronology
      awk for the mac? (A)
      Bidirectional ImageWriter (A)
      Default Stationery Button (Q)
      expiring shareware
      Gatekeeper prefs problem
      Internet access on America Online
      July Vaporware follow-up
      Macintosh implementation of AHP (A)
      Mathematical Fonts (Other than symbol/math.grk) Wanted
      MIDI
      MIDI (A)
      New Mac OS's
      No Paste Special on Word 5 Edit Menu
      Powerbook 170 for virtually 32 bits (3 msgs)
      Power up ResEdit?
      Question about RAM (2 msgs)
      Question about RAM (R)
      Request for UUTool feedback
      Soft PC (C)
      SuperClock (Q)
      Unix sz & rz with binary files...
      WK Script WINDOW ERASE (Never Mind)

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 92 11:55:03 -0600
From: [e-mail] (john r park)
Subject: [*] Compact_Pro1.33.sea.hqx

Bill Goodman has made Compact Pro even faster and unbinhexing
even easier (binhex still doesn't work in the background though).
If you use this program (doesn't everyone?) please register it so
that Bill can continue development of this fine program.
    -- John R Park  [e-mail]

RELEASE NOTES FOR COMPACT PRO* 1.33

Version 1.33 of Compact Pro is a maintenance release which fixes several
problems in version 1.32 and adds several minor improvements.

%%%  Improvements  %%%
  % Faster compression and expansion
  % Preferences are stored in a separate preferences file in System folder
  % BinHex decode opens any file if OPTION key is pressed
  % BinHex decode ignores illegal characters in input file
  % BinHex decode opens archives after decoding

[Archived as /info-mac/util/compact-pro-133.hqx; 165K]

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 92 00:08:28 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Murph's Vaporware column for July 1992

Vaporware also is available by email to [e-mail]
(subject ignored)
$MAC GET VAPORWARE-07-92.TXT

[Archived as /info-mac/digest/vapor/vaporware-07-92.txt; 13K]

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 92 01:53:55 PDT
From: Mick ODonnell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (Q): Sound Problems on si

 I have a problem with my mac si, and wonder if anyone else has
found/solved the problem:

  At odd times during the running of a program, sound will stop
coming out of the loudspeaker (normally a beep will get half-way thru,
and is suddenly cut off). The only way to restore sound is to  shut
down and re-boot (warm boots do not restore sound).

 This happens under both system 7.01, and 6.08. Does anyone know of a
simple way to fix the problem via software? Or is it a hardware
problem?

Mick O'Donnell

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 92 21:47:24 EST
From: Steve Solnick <[e-mail]>
Subject: .Z files

   I have some ftp'ed files here with .Z suffixes, which I guess
means Unix-compressed.  When I run them through MacCompress3.2 (on
either Mac or Unix settings), I get a "badMagicError" and the
decompression fails. I've tried ftping in both binary and ascii
modes, and the resulting files suffer the same fate when I try
decompressing.  Small files (8K, 20K).  What am I doing wrong??
   (P.S.: I don't have the option of decomressing them on a
unix machine directly....:-()
   Thanks for any help,
Steve Solnick

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1992 11:51:48 -0600 (MDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [Q]Integrated Accounting Software

Does anyone out there know of a fairly sophisticated integrated
accounting software that runs on the Mac?  The modules I am really
interested in are Order Processing and Accounts Receivable.  It also
must have the capability of handling multiple currencies and be fairly
sophisticated in hanlding "modes of transportation" details.

Ideally an order processing/accounts receivable package used in
mining or manufacturing operations and exporting to international clients
would best suit my requirement.

Please send any information directly to me.  I will summarize if
there is a lot of interest.

Thanks
Ken Mah ([e-mail])
TransCanada PipeLines
Calgary, Alberta
Canada
[phone] Bus.
[phone] FAX.

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 92 08:41:28 EDT
From: Steve Greenfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Abracadata's Design Your Own Home: Landscape

I am interested in Abracadata's Design Your Own Home:  Landscapes.  I've
seen it advertised from $58 to $65 and before I pay that kind of money I
want to investigate further.  Is there an article in MacWorld and/or
MacUser that discusses this product?  Has anyone out there used this product
and will you discuss it's strengths and weaknesses?

I want a program that will allow me to easily and accurately draw my lot to
scale (house included) and to be able to zoom in on certain areas of my yard.
I want to rescale and print my designs, along with any elements (i.e.; plants,
walks, driveways, trees, fences, etc.).  Does anyone know exactly what all
the software's capabilities are?

Does anyone know if Abracadata has a network address (internet or some other)
and/or an 800 number where I can contact them to ask more questions.  Who
knows, they might have a demo copy or something!  Does anyone know of a better
price than $58?

- [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 92 20:00:22 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Aliases not in Italic

On Fri, 26 Jun 92 0:00:21 PDT you said:
>When I can afford more than this Classic, I'll go 7, but in my opinion
>(I try not to claim to be humble), 5M is minimum RAM for 7, and
>the 68000 in my Classic does not understand numbers that big...

PowerBook memory is VERY expensive (compared to desktop Macs, not to
what memory cost a couple of years ago).  PB 140's and 170's only run
System 7.  Hence, many of us have discovered that System 7 in 4 MBytes
can be quite comfortable if we can organize to work without RAM
intensive INITs (alas AutoDoubler/DD INIT tend to be major offenders).

On a color system, I tend to throw in enough bells & whistles to have
System end up at 4,265K.  Under those circumstances, 5 MBytes isn't
enough.  As I said yesterday, it's possible to run a functioning 7 on a
B&W System of 2 MBytes and still have room for some (admittedly
carefully selected) frills.

If the way YOU choose to run your Classic results in nearly a MByte of
free memory most of the time, you may be missing out (on the other hand,
if the way YOU choose to use your Mac wouldn't take advantage of System
7 features than it really doesn't matter much).  I am acquainted with a
well-known Mac personage (really, I kid you not) who continues to
happily get actual work done with MacWrite II v1.0 (the original
version) on a stock 1987 Mac II with the original operating System
(6.0.4?).  Heresy, huh?

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 92 20:17:16 PDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Alysis/Aladdin dispute: a public chronology

In 10-153 and in 10-149, Justin Gray of Alysis addresses me directly as the
subject of some notes for INFO-MAC. But I'm not the subject--the subject is
the incompatibility between MDS and StuffIt and the manner in which Alysis
has responded to it. We're all sick of the subject, so I'll try to make
this final comment brief. Here's a chronology which is easy to check.

It was on May 11th that Aladdin posted its public warning about the
conflict on CompuServe. The warning stated quite clearly:

>Warning:
>
>More Disk Space causes StuffIt to create invalid archives.  This is a direct
result of a bug in More Disk Space.  Until MDS addresses this problem, we
recommend not stuffing any file compressed with MDS.
>
[You'll find the full text in infomacv10-135.]

On May 20th, an Alysis beta-tester and MDS owner reposted the same warning,
in full, to the Alysis board on America On Line, in the Competitors' Corner
section. He received a public response the same day saying the matter would
be looked into (from Alysis Tec). On May 29th, another note from Alysis Tec
said in part "I would take any allegations about MDS which are put out by
our competitors with a grain of salt."

On June 2nd, I noticed the CompuServe note and posted it here (10-135 dated
June 3rd) and on Prodigy. There was some discussion on Prodigy and in the
Alysis forum of AOL. (I never followed the discussion on CompuServe.)
Andrew Welch was one of the participants over at AOL, by the way, who also
pointed out that Aladdin was posting the warning because it involved
possible loss of data for many current StuffIt users. Farokh Lam of Alysis
responded to my note the next day in INFO-MAC (10-136 dated June 4th),
talking only of the beta version of StuffIt. I kept repeating, publicly and
privately, that the problem affected all versions of StuffIt, including the
1.5.1 shareware version licensed to AOL and sent to all of its subscribers.

On Prodigy, one MDS user posted a note saying he had called Alysis about
the problem and was assured it affected only beta versions of StuffIt. I
responded that he should test it out himself with 1.5.1. He did, and  found
that an Excel file got corrupted and could not be used. Over on the Alysis
AOL forum, a beta-tester posted a note on June 16th saying that he had also
confirmed the problem with 1.5.1 (no public response was ever posted to
that from Alysis); he then retracted that partially on June 22nd saying
that although StuffIt said the file was bad, it looked all right to him.

Let's skip now to June 26 and Justin Gray's post in 10-153. Justin says:

>You and Alladin have since announced an incompatibility with earlier versions
>of Stuffit.  No users or beta testers of More Disk Space have reported the
>problem...
>This morning one of our beta testers tried the combination and reported that
>the resulting files were fine, but that Stuffit gave a warning that they were
>not.

The Prodigy notes have scrolled off the board, but the AOL messages are
still on the Alysis bulletin board and of course the INFO-MAC comments are
available to all.

Justin Gray says no users or beta testers of MDS have reported the problem.
I have to conclude that the public notes I read weeks ago in Alysis' own
forum were planted by mischievous elves. Or maybe they don't count because
they weren't submitted on the proper form.

Does anyone really believe that no one at Alysis "tried the combination"
until the morning of June 26th? The problem, after all, was reported
publicly May 11th and Alysis had to know about it by May 20th when the
Aladdin warning was posted in Alysis' own forum. Justin and Farokh's posts
here show the INFO-MAC discussion was being read too at Alysis. Draw your
own conclusions.

By the way, note that despite David Sternlight's informative and informed
remarks in 10-147, the latest upgrade of MDS has NOT fixed the problem with
StuffIt versions below 3.0.




Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1992 00:44:46 -0400
From: Christopher Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: awk for the mac? (A)

There is a Mac port of GNU awk on mac.archive.umich.edu; the filename is
/mac/utilities/developerhelps/macgawk2.11.cpt.hqx.

Christopher Davis * [e-mail] * System Administrator, EFF * [phone]

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1992 17:10:21 GMT
From: [e-mail] (David Kok)
Subject: Bidirectional ImageWriter (A)

In Info-Mac Digest #151, Bob Crawford asks how to print
bi-directionally on an ImageWriter II.

I found the answer on p219 of The Macintosh Bible, Third edition.
Hold down CapsLock-Shift-Option as you click the OK button in the
Print dialog box.

To revert to normal printing, hold down 'z' as you click the OK
button.

David Kok
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 92 09:18:24 EST
From: Ernest Potenziani <[e-mail]>
Subject: Default Stationery Button (Q)

Does anyone know how to change which button is the default upon launching a
stationery document.  When double clicking a "stationery" document, the OK
button is highlighted.  But inexperienced users on our Mac IIci generally just
enter a filename and click OK which causes the new document to be stored in
the
default application folder.  Does anyone know if there is a way (such as with
ResEdit) to set the SAVE IN button as the default?  Any help is appreciated.

Ernie Potenziani  [e-mail]

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Date: 27 Jun 92 03:53:40 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: expiring shareware

[e-mail] writes:

>Shareware authors, _please_ don't send out crippled or expiring shareware!
>I would love to use (for example only) Compact Pro, or GIF Converter, but the
>network I run at JMU's campus radio station received *NO* budget, that is,
>absolutely *NO* funds for software this year!

It is the shareware author's fault you can't afford their software, so
therefore they should give it to you free? (or should that "can't" be a
"won't"?)

Hey, using that rationale, since you can't afford to buy Microsoft Word,
Microsoft should give you a copy of that, too.

>Flame off

Yeah. Sorry, don't cut it. Just because it ain't shrinkwrap doesn't mean you
can steal it. And just because you don't want to pay for it doesn't mean the
author has to make it easily stolen.

--
Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX) =+= Member, SFWA
  [e-mail] | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ =+= Editor, OtherRealms

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1992 18:44 IST
From: Mike Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Gatekeeper prefs problem

I'm having problems adding to the Privileges list in Gatekeeper 1.2.5.
It keeps forgetting arbitrarily what I've added.  Any ideas?

                                 - Mike.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 27 Jun 92 14:31:06 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Internet access on America Online

On 24 Jun 92, [e-mail] wrote:

 > If he has an America Online account he has Internet access. His
 > AOL address would be [e-mail], and to send a file to the
 > archives he would simply attach a file to a message to
 > [e-mail].

I Just got my AOL v2.0 Upgrade package this morning and it indicates that:
 - Attach File is not available when sending messages to other services.
(Internet)
-  Outgoing messages cannot be longer than 32K.

This would seem to effectively preclude sending program files from AOL to
Internet.

This post is my first attempt at using both AOL V2.0 and the AOL-Internet
gateway. It should be interesting.

Jim K

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 92 20:27:28 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: July Vaporware follow-up

On Sat, 27 Jun 1992 14:41:30 EDT you said:
> > Apple's first Macintoshes with CD-ROM standard will ship later this
> > year. The initial models will not have a math coprocessor but will be
> > Apple's first machines with a CPU upgrade slot. An add-on board will
> > increase the clock rate from 16 to 32 MHz as well as add a math
> > coprocessor and cache memory. The box will have three unfilled NuBus
> > slots and a processor direct slot along with enough standard VRAM for
> > 16 color on a 13 inch monitor. Pricing for a basic 4 MByte RAM, 80
> > MByte hard drive (in addition to the CD-ROM) will start at under
> > $2,000.
>
>Question: Apple has been floating rumors of a IIsi replacement with a
>25mhz CPU, built in Ethernet, and on board VRAM for about the same price
>as the current model.  Is the machine you describe a replacement for
>both the IIsi and IIci or is the new IIsi still on track for early '93?

First, Apple does NOT float rumors.  Apple finds most of the rumors
inconvenient (they sometimes cause customers to delay purchases; the
delay doesn't benefit Apple and frequently doesn't really benefit the
customer either).  Apple DOES produce prototypes of proposed new models
and sometimes seeds some developers with beta copies.  One way or
another, the trade press learns about these trial models ("Three can
keep a secret if two of them are dead." -- Poor Richard's Almanac) and
stories circulate.

model in the IIsi form factor unless it takes over the LC position in
the market.  There have been some noises about a "consumer oriented" Apple
product (probably not called Macintosh, but running an operating system
based on some subset of System 6 Finder) and there has been LOTS of
chatter about new products in the IIci form factor.  I'd guess that
you'll see the IIsi AND the IIci BOTH replaced by the above box (perhaps
with mix and match modular add-ons in addition to the CPU accelerator).

>
> > Apple's laboratory prototype [of the PowerPC RISC chip] is running
> > both a Mac and Windows user interface on top of the Pink kernel. The
> > operating system is purely an Apple concoction, not the Taligent OS in
> > partnership with IBM which isn't expected for another two or three
> > years.
>
>I thought pink was going to evolve into the Taligent OS. Does this mean
>that Apple has a System 8 in the works, based on a pink kernel, for
>release before the Taligent OS?

You've overlooked the original conception which was to begin by merging
A/UX and AIX (aka A/UX 4.0).  It's possible to run Finder 7 under A/Ux
3.0 and MeSsy DOS, OS/2 and Windows apps under AIX.  One possibility is
that MacWeek's source ASSUMED it was Pink when it actually was the
prototype for A/UX 4.0.  However, Apple was demonstrating prototypes of
Pink BEFORE taking on the deal with IBM.  The only difference would be
that they've not got Pink running in the PowerPC architecture instead of
the Motorola 880100 whatever other RISC chip(s) they had tried it on
before.  The real unanswered question is how far along are they in
converting the Mac Toolbox to native PowerPC code (that'll be the
determining factor about how well current Mac apps run on the PowerPC).

Coming next in next month's: Don't throw away your IIfx (or older 6 slot
box).  Apple IS testing a proposed new model in that form factor with
the Cyclone features plus special coprocessors for 3-D rendering
(virtual reality on your desktop?).  On the other hand, don't yell at me
if the configuration joins all those IIgs upgrades that Apple built and
never marketed.

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 92 20:06:02 EST
From: [e-mail] (Dhanesh K. Samarasan)
Subject: Macintosh implementation of AHP (A)

> Date: Friday, 26 Jun 1992 16:19:43 EDT
> From: [e-mail] (Jesse Pirocchi)
>
> We'd prefer an implementation of AHP that has been developed for the Mac.
> Any ideas?  We don't care if the product is commercial, shareware, or
> public domain - just that it's native to the Mac.


I once made up a Mathematica notebook that implements Tom Saaty's AHP (more
or less as I understand it, anyway).  If you don't really care about the
interface or ease of use, it takes care of the basic eigenvalue calculations
for you.  Let me know if you are interested.  Meanwhile, I'll find out if I
can actually distribute this notebook (you need to have a copy of Mathematica,
of course).


Cheers,
Dhanesh


PS: If you find a real AHP application that does even a
    semi-professional job, please let me know.

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1992 05:34:45 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Kurt D Whitmore)
Subject: Mathematical Fonts (Other than symbol/math.grk) Wanted

I need mathematical fonts (postscript/true type), no bitmaps and yes,

I already have symbol and that bitmap dayton.mthgrk.

If anyone has information leading to the whereabouts of said fonts

will be rewarded deep gratitude and maybe a beer.



Kurt

[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1992 01:56 EST
From: Mark Cornick <[e-mail]>
Subject: MIDI

What sort of things do you need to get started with MIDI on the Mac ?  Is
there a special converter or something that you need to use ?  Does anyone
have any recommendations for MIDI software ?  I seem to remember a freeware
MIDI software package posted not too long ago, has anyone used this ?  Any
help would be appreciated !  Thanx !

*****
MIDI interfaces that plug into your serial port, and give you (usually) four
OUTs and one IN go for about $60.00 from the usual mail order suspects.
Software is a bigger problem. I believe the freeware MIDI sequencer you were
referring to is MiniTrax. Don't bother. It allows recording and playback
only--
no editing. Plus it was written with Microsoft BASIC, which not only makes it
slow but problematic with System 7. I'd like to say that you get what you pay
for, but:
a) Anything over $100 seems ridiculous to me for a sequencer program; and
b) In light of my recent controversial shareware comments, I'd better not say
   anything more about shareware payments. :-)
Anyway, the gist of this whole spiel is that the hardware is cheap, but the
software is unfortunately a bit pricey. If you've got the money, go for Master
Tracks from Passport Design; it's more or less a standard on the MAC but runs
several hundred $$$. If you (like me) have no money, you can try MiniTrax
(it's on Info-Mac's archives) but I guarantee that you will be frustrated
within an hour of using the program, or your money back :-)

Mark Cornick
James Madison University
[e-mail]

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Date: Sunday, 28 June 1992 7:29am CT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MIDI (A)

[e-mail] asks:
>What sort of things do you need to get started with MIDI on the Mac ?
>Is there a special converter or something that you need to use ?

You need a MIDI interface (or "converter") and a MIDI synth.  Of course
you also need a Mac, preferably something other than a fx or a PB :-(

I use  an Altech interface which has 3 MIDI outs, 1 MIDI in, 1 serial in,
1 serial out (with a MIDI bypass switch), and 3 LEDs to register serial
and MIDI traffic.  It draws the power it needs from the serial port
of the Mac - a distinct improvement over the older models which
had to be plugged into an AC outlet.  Make sure the package you buy
includes at least 2 MIDI cables and a null serial cable.  Price is
generally  $ 50 (all $ amounts refer to street prices).

>Does anyone have any recommendations for MIDI software ?
>I seem to remember a freeware MIDI software package posted
>not too long ago, has anyone used this ?

The PD sequencer at Sumex can be found in /app/mini-trax-155.hqx.
You can use it to record and playback MIDI sequences, but it lacks a
music notation module, which makes it impossible to "tweak" your
compositions (unless you are MIDI event format literate).

I find Concertware+MIDI ( $100) to be perfect for my needs.
It is an easy-to-use package with a clean interface.  There are 3
modules - a Writer, a Player and an Instrument Maker.  The Writer
allows you to record as you play your piece in any of 8 different
voices. (You can also enter the notes from your Mac keyboard).
It gives you complete control over editing with standard
cut/copy/paste, and sending MIDI commands (velocity, instrument
changes etc.) to control your synth on 16 different channels.  It can also
import from standard MIDI files  One feature I like about the Player is
its ability to automatically play all MIDI documents in a folder -
its like compiling all your favorite songs on one "tape" and playing it.
The Instrument Maker is useful only if you don't have a MIDI synth
and would like to use the Mac as one.  The current incarnation
is 5.2.2 and a version 6.0 is expected this winter.

A list of some of the other commercial options:

Finale is _supposed_ to be *the* MIDI program on the Mac.  If you can't
do something in Finale, you probably shouldn't be doing it :-).  It is the
most extensive (and expensive) MIDI software and reportedly comes
bundled with a steep learning curve.

Options in the mid-range ($200 - $ 400) include Vision,
Dr. T (demo at sumex), and Master Tracks Pro.  Most of these also
have low-end siblings (e.g., EZ Vision etc.).  Two others worth
mentioning at the low-end ( $ 100 ) are Deluxe Music Construction,
and of course, ConcertWare.  Don't let the words "low-end" fool you.
Unless you are involved with some professional sequencing/notation
project, you will find that these packages are *quite* capable.  If
copy-protection isn't your cup of tea (it isn't mine), check before
you buy 'cos some of them are.

To get a comprehensive list/description/price of current software,
call 1-800-MAC-BEAT and ask them for their catalogue (I am just
one of their customers of the satisfied variety).  They employ
knowledgable folks and always have some good bargains on MIDI
software and hardware (they also sell Macs).  You could also check
the mail-order firms (MacWareHouse/Connection/Zone) for prices.

>Any help would be appreciated !  Thanx !

My pleasure.

Not quite a flame - call it a spark from the sun  :->
Apple continues to treat MIDI as an afterthought (if thought about
at all); apart from the fx/PB problems, the Chooser is supposed to be
MIDI Manager hostile on any Mac.  Could some kind soul at Cupertino
please enlighten us why Apple doesn't get serious about MIDI?
The decision to let others worry about supporting MIDI on the Mac seems
almost as moronic as the decision to replace the SE/30 with the
Classic II ;-).  Perhaps a few more "Dear John...." letters by MIDI-ers
in netlan' might make a difference.  IAE, Mac owners continue to
MIDI despite, not because of, Apple.  'Nuff said.

Cheers - Shekhar Govind.

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Date: 27 Jun 92 19:48:45 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: New Mac OS's

I'm pretty darned confused about the upcoming Taligent and Pink OS's.

I'd be grateful if someone could tell the net if this is, in fact true:

1) Apple will release a system 8 that will incorporate much of the technology
everyone is expecting to ooze out of the Taligent venture. This will occur
sometime next year. It will run on all sufficiently powerful 0x0 macs.

2) Apple will release new risc-based macs sometime next year that will be
able to run both the systems 7 and 8 as well as the upcoming Taligent OS.

3) Taligent, a year or two later, will release its OS that will (presumably)
improve upon system 8. It will run on Apple's risc processor macs AS WELL AS
SUFFICIENTLY POWERFUL 0X0 MACS.

It is on this last part that I am most confused and worried. Please, please,
please tell me my 030 processor will run the Taligent stuff when it comes
out. I just upgraded my system, and it may well be another decade before I
can afford to do so again.

Many thanks in advance,
-tig

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 92 14:31:15 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: No Paste Special on Word 5 Edit Menu

Paul Brians <[e-mail]> writes:

  > I passed on Martin Josso's note on multiple references to the same
  > footnote in Word 5 under System 7 to a friend who thought it was
  > great, but when I tried it I found I couldn't.  I have no "Paste
  > Special" option on my edit menu.  The copy/paste portion has these
  > options: Cut Copy Paste Object Paste Link Clear Select All

This happend to me too just last week. My edit menu had been normal and then
for reasons unknown it became as you describe. It is not an installation
problem since my Word 5 had been installed months ago and had been normal. I
was able to restore Word to normal operation by deleting the Word Settings
(5) file. Word rebuilds it, but all of the changed default settings and
preferences were lost and had to be set up again.

Jim K.

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 92 19:58:47 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Powerbook 170 for virtually 32 bits

On 25 Jun 92 21:12:39 EDT you said:
>I noticed in my Powerbook 170 manual that in one place it tells me I can run
>the computer in 32-bit mode ONLY when I have virtual memory running.

The PowerBook 140/170 will address up to 8 MBytes of physical RAM
(32-bit mode isn't necessary).  You can use virtual to address up to 13
MBytes of RAM (I'm not sure why the result is 13, but you can confirm
that for yourself in the Memory control panel if you have more than 13
MBytes free on your HD :).  Unless you want to address more than 13
MBytes of RAM, you don't need 32-bit mode (you CAN turn it on--the
button is NOT dimmed--but it doesn't confer any advantage).

>I've been under the (possibly false) impression that I was running 32-bit all
>along.

I sometimes run in 32-bit mode to insure that the software I'm using is
32-bit clean (starting sometime next year, new high-end Macs will no
longer run in less than 32-bit mode).  So far, I have no problem
foregoing programs which are not both 32-bit clean and '040 cache
compatible (even games :)

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 92 20:04:34 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Powerbook 170 for virtually 32 bits

On 26 Jun 92 19:02:10 EDT you said:
>So, Murph, you're telling me that when I switch MY (4 mb) computer onto
>32-bit, it is actually operating in 32-bit mode? Or is it just telling me
>that, and actually waiting until my computer has 8 megabytes before kicking
>in?

No, it REALLY is in 32-bit mode (try launching an app that's known to
not be 32-bit clean, the recently uploaded PSI program, for example).
With 32-bit off, it'll run, with 32-bit on it'll bomb.

Sometimes we're lucky we have manuals at all.  When the appear to be
written in English, they're remarkable.  When they can actually be
understood it's astonishing.  When they actually are understood CORRECTLY
it's a miracle! ;-)

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1992 00:47:12 -0400
From: Christopher Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Powerbook 170 for virtually 32 bits

DMT> == David.M.Tillinghast  <[e-mail]>

 DMT> I noticed in my Powerbook 170 manual that in one place it tells me
 DMT> I can run the computer in 32-bit mode ONLY when I have virtual
 DMT> memory running.

You probably *can*, but it's pointless.  32-bit mode lets you use RAM
over 8M (which you can't put in a PowerBook anyway).  The only real
application for it (on a PB) is to get your virtual memory above 14M.

Since you aren't using VM, don't sweat it.

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 92 18:55:17 -0400
From: Jean-Luc Brousseau
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Power up ResEdit?

I have two small question about resources and data fork...
The first one is how can I search through a program (data and res fork) for
a string or a hex?  ResEdit allow you to search ID by ID but that is really
long.  Is there an application that can tell you exactly where (type/ID) is
you word?
The second one is about the DATA fork.  Is there an DataEdit just like there
is a ResEdit that would allow you to change/search through the data fork?

Thanks,
       Jean-Luc

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 92 23:04:14 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Winston)
Subject: Question about RAM

 > i recently upgraded my IIsi to 9 megs of RAM. What I don't
 > understand is that there seems to be about 400K of RAM
 > missing.

It's not missing. The system appropriates 322K for the IIsi's brain damaged
video. This doesn't show up in the "About This Mac" box.
You can recover about 256K by switching to B&W, or all of it by installing
a video card.
Of course, this still leaves the "About This Mac" box on my 5 megger
about 84K short.
It's sort of like the missing sock that's consumed by the clothes dryer
gremlins.
Think of last few missing K as tribute to the computer gods.

__
Robert E. Winston
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1992 00:48:21 -0400
From: Christopher Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Question about RAM

John> == John Teng <[e-mail]>

 John> i recently upgraded my IIsi to 9 megs of RAM.  What I don't
 John> understand is that there seems to be about 400K of RAM missing.

That's your screen RAM, if you're using internal video.  Check out the
Monitors control panel, which lets you adjust how much memory you reserve.

Christopher Davis * [e-mail] * System Administrator, EFF * [phone]

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 92 16:22:25 PDT
From: Jerry Wilcox <[e-mail]>
Subject: Question about RAM (R)

John Teng is trying to account for his "missing" 400K of RAM:

One thing you might look at is memory being used by Faceless
applications. One good (and very common) example of such a beast
(sometimes called a daemon) is TrashMan. The TrashMan engine runs in
about a 50K partition, but that won't show up in the "About This
Macintosh" dialog box. I have a couple of extensions which hang
around in a similar fashion.

Disclaimer: These are my own personal opinions, not my employer's.
+ Jerry Wilcox -- [e-mail] -- phone: [phone] +

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1992 22:44:21 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Bernie Wieser)
Subject: Request for UUTool feedback

Hello!  Author of UUTool here, wanting feedback from net-users about the
various things added; specifically bugs or wierdness.

I would like to know if anyone has played sounds converted from Mac
AIFF to audio files on the Sun or NeXT, and if so, what the sound
quality is like?

Thanks in advance.
Bernie Wieser

(P.S. Help is inside the About UUTool... menu, under the DApple.)

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 92 18:39:45 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Soft PC (C)

Re the recent comments about Soft PC's speed:
I imagine that Soft PC is rather slow, however,
running Soft AT (which doesn't cost much more)
definitely brings the speed up to that of a 286
machine (subjectively speaking, of course).  Its
really not that bad (on a IIfx, anyway) and *worlds*
better than moving your file to an IBM, running
something, and moving it back.  Just my $0.02....

Peter Gerhardstein ([e-mail])

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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 92 01:30:10 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Mr. Michael Grabenstein)
Subject: SuperClock (Q)

    If the author of SuperClock is out there in internet land:
Could you create another version of the clock program that plays the
chimes asynch? Instead of synch. That way things would not be so held
up when it hit noon time.
Thanks,
    Mike
    [e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 92 13:11:39 -0400
From: Jean-Luc Brousseau
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Unix sz & rz with binary files...

I have another problem.  I got the Zmodem files and they work perfectly.
Kermit was really a nightmare!  Now the problem is that I don't know how
to pass binary files.  HQX files is OK, since it's only data fork.  How can
I pass MacBinary through sz/rz?  Is there a way to do so?  How can .bin files
be passed to the archives then?
Thanks a lot for all of you who will answer,

Jean-Luc

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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 92 12:08:47 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: WK Script WINDOW ERASE (Never Mind)

I suppose it is too late to prevent being inundated with help on my RYFM
of yesterday, but maybe I can save some of you the bother.

I was too hung up on WINDOW ERASE. Going through the procedure section of
the manual with no preconceived notions this morning, I ran across the
simple CLEAR command. Oh for naughtyword's sake, how did I miss *that*?

Sorry to have troubled y'all with that one.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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